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ahp.magazine: Why inspired? That requires some expla-  ahp.magazine: That’s understandable, isn’t it?
             nation.                                           CME: Of course, that’s understandable, and Generation Y and Z
             CME::  To see the development of what could actually be achieved   are very busy trying to find a sensible balance between job and
             from nothing with a lot of discipline, commitment, confidence,   free time/family. And yes, I also think that’s important and right.
             courage. My father was not a rich man, he had not inherited a   But I think that in the meantime the “leisure/family” part is too
             fortune. He simply had an idea that he wanted to realize. First to-  much in the foreground. And because this is the case, it is no
             gether with my mother and after 15 hard initial years I joined. Out   longer possible to move as much as might be possible. With all
             of necessity. Because it was very difficult at that time.     the consequences...


             ahp.magazine: A dream-team at work there?         ahp.magazine: Which are...?
             CME:  In a way, for sure. With all the ups and downs and all   CME: If you drive with the handbrake on, you’ll get there. Just
             the differences such as businessman and technician, older/young-  slower. And if you accept the consequences of that, then that’s
             er generation, father and boss/son/mother, boss, too and much   perfectly fine. But if you demand a salary increase every year and,
             more... But I think we always managed in the end to put our   ideally, inflation compensation at the same time, then this calcu-
             personal animosities behind the big picture, behind AHP Merkle.   lation no longer works. I’m sorry to say that.
             And that, although it was often anything but easy.
                                                               ahp.magazine: Tighten your belt after all?
             ahp.magazine: Sounds like a lot of “common sense”. Is that   CME: Helps in any case and makes sense. But I don’t want to
             deceptive?                                        “preach” that. But I would be happy if we would remember again
             CME:  No, that’s not deceptive. If you think about it, over the   - by the way, I would also like to see this in politics (at the federal,
             years, “common sense has often had to prevail.” As the proverb   state, and local level) - that we have to earn money by producing
             says. And we’ve always been aware that it’s far from just about us,   products and delivering services and that we cannot spend more
             but that we bear responsibility for our employees, for their fam-  than we earn.
             ilies, and for our customers and suppliers. And that’s not some-
             thing you risk lightly.                           ahp.magazine: The classic Swabian housewife?
                                                               CME: I think we’ll take the Badische (laughs). Household money
             ahp.magazine: This sense of responsibility is not necessari-  is out, and so is keeping a budget book. But it  helped to get by
             ly fashionable nowadays?                          with the money that was there (whether a lot or a little). And you
             CME:  No, unfortunately not. The concept of “responsibility”   didn’t live beyond your means.
             suffers. Everything is designed for the short term; you want to
             have great success quickly and then also want to do so little for it.   ahp.magazine: A lesson learned from 35 years of entrepre-
             That’s why influencers are more interesting today and are much   neurship?
             more suitable as role models than classic entrepreneurs who work   CME: Absolutely. Knowing what you can afford and when the
             hard every day and aren’t on vacation every school vacation. They   money should rather work in the company.
             don’t live a glossy life.
                                                               ahp.magazine: Back to the past year. Did AHP Merkle
             ahp.magazine: Already at the age of wanting to talk about   manage well?
             “the old days” or the “good old days”?            CME: Indeed, we have managed well in the last two years. Thanks
             CME:  (laughs) No, the good old days don’t exist. In 10 years,   to our changed situation through the sale of the property in 2021
             2022 will already be the “good old days. It’s all relative. But, a lot   and the decision to “invest” the entire sale price completely at
             has changed in recent years. And as an entrepreneur who takes   AHP Merkle, we were able to significantly reduce our bank liabili-
             his responsibility seriously, you often feel very alone.  ties. And thus create a solid basis for the future.

             ahp.magazine: How is that to be understood?       ahp.magazine: Once again “common sense” before “heart”?
             CME: If you want to make a difference, if you have visions that   CME: For the sake of the whole and to safeguard jobs, common
             you want to realize, then you need support. People who want   sense was absolutely the right thing to do at this point. Even if the
             to participate. Who are committed to the same goal and, to a   sale is difficult. And “you don’t sell real estate”. But because of
             certain extent, subordinate to it. Because you must put personal   this “Reibach”, which I was sometimes accused of, we were able
             demands behind you if you want to be successful. That requires   to use so that AHP Merkle has a future. That is what counts. No
             sacrifices. More and more people are finding it difficult to make   matter how that is commented.
             these sacrifices.



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